Changes to official titles

[Mo'i Kakali]

Several people, including the Minister of State, have stated that they don't like the official titles of the members of the MoS's cabinet: Vice Minister of State for (fill in the blank).

I'd like to propose an amendment to change the titles to the following:
Minister of State: Cheif Minister
VMS Defense: Defense Minister
VMS Foreign Affairs: Foreign Minister
VMS Interior Affairs: Interior Minister
VMS for the Treasury: Finance Minister

[Brian O'Gara]

Apr 25, 2008 9:08:09 GMT -5 Mo'i Kakali said:

Several people, including the Minister of State, have stated that they don't like the official titles of the members of the MoS's cabinet: Vice Minister of State for (fill in the blank).

I'd like to propose an amendment to change the titles to the following:
Minister of State: Cheif Minister
VMS Defense: Defense Minister
VMS Foreign Affairs: Foreign Minister
VMS Interior Affairs: Interior Minister
VMS for the Treasury: Finance Minister

Really? I like them, but I guess I don't mind too much either way

[Mo'i Kakali]

i liked them, but Vice Minister of State for this that and the other tends to get a bit cumbersom. And, if you notice, Minister Clark already referes to the VMSs as Mininstry of THis, that, or the other.

[Kilikopela]

I would represent this in Parliament.

Thank You and Humbly,

[lashrash]

I need a motion and a second to take this before parliament.

[Mo'i Kakali]

I will, if given the chance, write a formal amendment, and have it ready for you Wednesday.

[lashrash]

OK. I look forward to seeing this bill.

[Kilikopela]

We don't need a motion to take it to Parliament. All that is needed is a Parliament member to author the bill. If one says that they will, then a motion is not needed. I could simply have this thread moved into Parliament and claim it as my own and no motion would be needed.

Thank You and Humbly,

[lashrash]

Section 3.04 Parliamentary Procedures

(b) A topic must receive a motion and a second from the delegates before it will be taken into the Parliamentary Discussion chamber by the Minister of State

By law you must have a motion and a second to take it before the parliament.

[Mo'i Kakali]

is that in the constitution or in a law passed by the parliament (not that it would matter, I just wanted to know where it was found). And for the record, I like Prince Kilikopellas idea of authoring a bill directly into discussion.

[Mo'i Kakali]

An address to His Majesty’s Grand Parliament
On a Suggested Amendment to the Constitution of the United Kingdom of Luthoria

To the Honorable Member of Parliament, and the Minister of State,

It is my priviledge to present to you today an amendment which I proposed at the request of others dealing with the titles of the Minister of State and the Vice Ministers of State. While I began to write this out, it became clear that to change the titles would, by its very nature, restructure the set up of the “Ministry of State”, so I set about to do so in a way that would not greatly alter the authority or privileges of the Minister of State or the Vice Ministers of State.

Titles Amendment
Section to be amended: Article II of the Consitution.
Article II: The Royal Cabinet
Section2.01: Definition
(a) The Royal Cabinet will be the all-encompassing government body that will run the United Kingdom of Luthoria. It shall be headed by the Chief Minister.
(b) The Chief Minister will be elected every six months (in March and in September) by a majority vote of the ENITRE population.
(i) To be the Chief Minister, a person must have been a citizen for at least 3 months.
(ii) When elected, the new Chief Minister will be sworn in by the Reigning Monarch, and will say the following “I, (insert name) will do my best to serve this nation, to follow, uphold, and protect the Constitution of the United Kingdom of Luthoria, and to follow, with the best of my ability, the will of the people of this Kingdom.”
(iii) A Chief Minister may only be removed by a majority vote of the ENITRE population, and only with the approval of the Reigning Monarch (a royal veto may be overturned with a ¾ majority vote of the population)
(c) The Royal Cabinet will be in charge of all of the following areas:
(i) Defense
(ii) Foreign Affairs
(iii) Internal Affairs
(iv) Finance
(d) The Chief Minister will appoint the people to the following position which will oversee the above mentioned areas that the Royal Cabinet is in charge of:
(i) Defense Minister
(ii) Foreign Minister
(iii) Interior Minister
(iv) Financial Minister
(e) Once the Chief Minister has appointed the other Cabinet Ministers, the appointees must be approved of by the Reigning Monarch before they take office.
(f) A Minister may only be removed by a direct order of the Chief Minister with the permission of the Reigning Monarch. However a royal veto may be overturned if the Chief Minister and a 2/3 majority of the Grand Parliament agree to do so.
Section 2.02 Succession of the Chief Minister
(a) Should the Chief Minister is removed or resign from office or is otherwise incapacitated to where he or she can no longer fulfill the duties of the office, the line of succession shall be as follows:
(i) Defense Minister, then
(ii) Foreign Minister, then
(iii) Interior Minister, then
(iv) Finance Minister
(b) Should all the above stated line be unavailable to fill the position, an emergency election will be held immediately
(c) When an absence occurs, it will be filled by the above mentioned persons until the next election.
Section 2.03 Powers of the Royal Cabinet
(a) The Royal Cabinet will have the full authority to make any law in the areas that it oversees.
(i) These laws will usually be made by various Ministers, and may be overturned by the Chief Minister or the Reigning Monarch within 14 days.
(ii) Laws made by the Chief Minister may be vetoed by the Reigning Monarch within 14 days.
(b) Any law made by the Ministry of State may be removed by a vote of the Grand Parliament.
*Also, this amendment will change throughout the rest of the constitution any place where it says Ministry of State to Royal Cabinet, Minister of State to Chief Minister, Vice Minister of State to Minister, and, when a specific VMS is mentioned, the appropriate Minister will be put in its place.

I would like to thank you all for your time, and stress how important I think this amendment is for our nation, and urge the members of this parliament to make haste and approve of it as soon as possible.

I would also like to state that if anyone would like the original documents that were typed on my computer of either this amendment or the Reform Bill, I will e-mail them to anyone upon request.

[lashrash]

Apr 29, 2008 10:51:01 GMT -5 Mo'i Kakali said:

is that in the constitution or in a law passed by the parliament (not that it would matter, I just wanted to know where it was found). And for the record, I like Prince Kilikopellas idea of authoring a bill directly into discussion.

Quoted directly from the constitution.