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Post by Kilikopela on Apr 18, 2008 22:08:25 GMT -5
On my changes. I do not think that the original is a fair bill. I think the courts should act as a counter-balance. By the way, you can't not recognize my motion simply because you don't like it. You promised not to do that.
Thank You and Humbly,
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Post by Elikapeka on Apr 18, 2008 22:29:42 GMT -5
If you want to vote on your changes, you should probably specifically present them in a revised bill.....
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Post by lashrash on Apr 18, 2008 23:32:47 GMT -5
On my changes. I do not think that the original is a fair bill. I think the courts should act as a counter-balance. By the way, you can't not recognize my motion simply because you don't like it. You promised not to do that. Thank You and Humbly, I would like to point to Elikapeka's post she is right. I would also like to point out according to the rules of order I do have the right to extend the discussion period. I promised not to act outside of my power. I am not. Besides, without a second to your motion, there is no vote. I am merely invoking my right in case there is a second. |
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Post by Kilikopela on Apr 19, 2008 4:18:44 GMT -5
But you don't always require a second. I have seen several threades where a second is not needed. A motion is made and it is taken to the voting booth. You can have double standards! It has to be the same rules all the time! NO EXCEPTIONS! Since we have yet to officially approve a style of rules for this body, I think we should create one. I also think that there should be some sort of power balance within Parliament. I think that the MOS has to much power. The only reason why he should even speak here is to supervise, not control!s
Thank You and Humbly,
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Post by lashrash on Apr 19, 2008 18:35:54 GMT -5
I am sorry that you feel that way.
I also know that I have moved without a second, it was pointed out to me by the king. I am sorry that this happens to inconvenience you, but I made a mistake and I am correcting it.
You expect me not to speak? That is like telling the VP of the US to not talk when he is looking in on congress. He is afforded the right to speak, and vote in a tie. Before the modern way that it was run, the VP oversaw the admin jobs, just like I do. So I think they way it is set up is just fine.
I do not have much power here. I bring in discussions, set up the votes, and vote in the event of a tie. I still need to point out that I am the administrator, so I can set the rules of order. If you wish to draw up legislation, then do so.
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Post by Kilikopela on Apr 22, 2008 23:32:57 GMT -5
The whole point of MNs is to break away from the mold and if you would like me to point out, the Vice-President has litttle to no power in the Senate. He doesn't preside, there are other elected officials to do that. If you would like to be more like the US VP then we shall vote leadership out of ourselves.
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Post by lashrash on Apr 23, 2008 23:29:30 GMT -5
You are incorrect my friend. The Vice president has the right to preside over Congress the same way I run over the Parliament. Its just over the years, the position has drifted away, and they instituted a position that the most senior senator usually fills to take his place.
I have told you and I am saying it again. I know that you want the rules to change, but telling me over and over will not make it happen, write a bill to get it done. The King set this up the way it is for a reason, and I agree with it.
Now we have drifted away from the topic of this thread, lets get back to it. If you would like to talk more about this issue, please start a new thread in a public forum.
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Post by lashrash on Apr 24, 2008 11:13:01 GMT -5
Check your congressional code again. The Vice President has the authority to assume the role as admin of congress.
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Post by Kilikopela on Apr 24, 2008 22:16:26 GMT -5
Check your Congressional code. The Vice President has no power of Congress. He may be President of the Senate but not Congress in general. Plus there is such a thing as called checks anc balances and I your glad we don't have that or you couldn't belittle and boss people like you do now.
Thank You and Humbly,
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Post by lashrash on Apr 25, 2008 1:36:38 GMT -5
Look. This is going to get us no where. We need to move and and drop this useless bickering.
I am standing behind this bill. It is great.
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Mo'i Kakali
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Post by Mo'i Kakali on Apr 25, 2008 8:27:42 GMT -5
Mr. Minister, I'd like to ask permission to address the Parliament on this bill.
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Post by Kilikopela on Apr 26, 2008 18:12:07 GMT -5
I would support the King's address to Parliament.
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Post by lashrash on Apr 28, 2008 9:11:32 GMT -5
Mr. Minister, I'd like to a sk permission to address the Parliament on this bill. Granted. Though I do ask that in the future you request permission via PM next time. |
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Post by Mo'i Kakali on Apr 28, 2008 11:21:30 GMT -5
Members of Parliament,
I would like to state, for the record, that the main functions of this proposed bill, I believe, would be helpful to our government. However, to ensure that there is fairness, I think that when a registration for business is denied by the Finance Minister, that an appeal should first go before the Supreme Court. If the Supreme Court should deny a registration, then and only then should the applicant be allowed to appeal to the King.
I believe that this would be a compromise on both 'camps' of thought on this issue, and I urge the parliament to accept this compromise, and to get this legislation passed so that our government can focus on new, important issues.
Thank you all for your time, and for the permission to speak before you today.
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Post by lashrash on May 13, 2008 10:27:13 GMT -5
I agree with the compromise.
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